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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0017437 | Legion Core | Latest instances / Актуальные инсты | public | 2022-01-02 12:10 | 2023-11-14 08:07 |
| Reporter | Smogy | Assigned To | Alica228 | ||
| Priority | immediate | Severity | major | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | no change required | ||
| Platform | Windows | OS | 10 | OS Version | x64 |
| Summary | 0017437: Mythic EN Trash Mobs & Bosses hidden Aura Buff | ||||
| Description | In Mythic Emerald Nightmare, the Adds and all Bosses have this Aura which shouldn't be applied in a 7.0 Progression eventho we have 7.3.5 Core. | ||||
| Additional Information | First Screenshot: Mythic Ursoc Method. Second Screenshot: Mythic Urscoc on Uwow 2.1.2022 Third Screenshot: Adds infront of bosses | ||||
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Hello! This aura was added by us specifically to raise interest in the race. The fact that the characteristics of creatures in raid zones will change was reported at the announcement of the Legion x5 game world. https://forum.uwow.biz/threads/opening-the-new-legion-game-world-x5.300108/ "- To raise interest, during the races some characteristics of raid bosses, as well as their summoned minions will be changed". |
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Heyho, "To raise interest, during the races some characteristics of raid bosses, as well as their summoned minions will be changed" Progressing bosses which are harder than they used to be is for sure making interest(not) . Especially when you have Ursoc with an increased HP Pool means he is casting Bloodfrenzy (30%) with 600 Million HP left. So you have basically have to play the boss with 35% dmg increase (Rage+Buff) for 600 Million HP which normally is like almost 50% of the Boss. In order to kill this Boss Mathematically you need to do 5.5M DPS, which results in playing with 4 Heal in order to be able to kill it in 6 Minutes. Playing 4 Heals wouldn´t be an issue in terms of the normal Enrage fight length, but you wont have enough CDs at the end of the Fight in order to survive. So the idea of making the Progress more interesting is nice, but just doing that by simply increasing the HP/DMG isn´t that kind of a good idea in my opinion. |
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I mean you guys legit pulling a Fetid Devourer release here. A boss/bosses, that are Mathematically impossible to kill with the current gear state. Imo, there wont be a guild that will kill Ursoc nor Cenarius in that state and no one will end up with a RF Xavius at this point. |
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Smogy technically these bosses are completely killable. And guys who will participate in "RF" race in Emerald Nightmare, now they are actively farming Mythik+ mode and EN(HC) https://ibb.co/j8tH1jM - my char on x5, it remains Spontaneous Appendages(870 HC Warforge) from Il'gynoth to replace with Ursoc's Rending Paw from Ursoc(HC), and I will be happy, because until the release of the NightHold, it will be possible not to change gear. |
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Mythic+ i mean |
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ToHellAndBack Dude, what you wrote makes legit 0 sense. Have you tried Mythic Ursoc with your guild? or Mythic Elerethe Renferal? I know the answer already. Try it please and make this statement again that those bosses are "completely killable" when we got more DPS than progression guilds on retail, when we hit nearly enrage timer on Ursoc. |
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Ursoc is applying Rend Flesh way too closely on a timer with overwhelm, even if played perfectly with the cooldown rotation between the tanks rend flesh is applied at the same time the 2nd tank losses his debuff. Only fights where rend flesh was applied outrside overwhool running out was when the tanks took 3 stacks of Overhwelm. The images that ursoc spawn also have a bug where the red ground they spawn don't get locked in place but follows the Image until killed. On retail rend flesh was applied around 3-4 seconds after Overwhelm runs out. |
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Not gonna mention the fact, that the Tanks getting the Charge beside the Rend Flesh and Overwhelm, which only should apply on dps and healer. :^) |
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Have you tried Mythic Ursoc with your guild? yep we tried him. Experience with retail servers, can go fuck themselves, objectively and for many reasons.. Because you are not taking into account the many changes in game mechanics between 7.0.3 and 7.3.5 Because you forget that you're playing on a private server, which means that having bugs is quite common. Given that this is a holiday week in Russia after the new year, it would be very naïve to expect corrections BEFORE January 10-14. Moreover, before you whine about how the bosses are "mathematically" can not be killed... you should have "worked", and make an extensive bug-report on the shortcomings of the game mechanics. and after fixing bugs. come and discuss how true "custom solutions" here. |
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If you have nothing to contribute with @ToHellAndBack and only want to keep acting like a smart ass, keep ur mouth shut. If you Tried mythic ursoc on x5 you should also have footage of it discerning the post, and please do so. Also this raid have been rescripted twice before so them being "present" because its a private server is a horrible excuse and illiterate. And by far, there is a reason why this bug thread was made, maybe read between the lines for once. I don't even see any reasoning behind why you are being so offended when this has absolutely nothing to do with you. |
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I mean, seeing his comment history on other Topics, just prove he is completly degenerated and cant provide solid arguements to obvious things "Experience with retail servers, can go fuck themselves, objectively and for many reasons..!" what a great statement. you should go outside from time to time to let some fresh air in your head, so you dont write such nonsense, which contribute nothing to the subject. "Have you tried Mythic Ursoc with your guild? yep we tried him." Tell me in which guild you are please. Or as Syphex stated, provide a video on it. "Because you forget that you're playing on a private server, which means that having bugs is quite common." That doesn't make sense when we talking about an Aura, THEY implemented to the raid- so its not a bug. "Moreover, before you whine about how the bosses are "mathematically" can not be killed... you should have "worked", and make an extensive bug-report on the shortcomings of the game mechanics. and after fixing bugs. come and discuss how true "custom solutions" here." If you would read the WHOLE TOPIC carefully, you would have seen the Math Aldrahin did, which makes legit sense to every single human-being with atleast 2 working braincells(dw this dont apply to you since you seems to be have an IQ equal to 2000x0) If you dont got anything useful to add here, and only post shit on topics and being toxic towards players, please consider to swing from a tree with a rope around your neck, you would do the whole community a big favor. |
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"Experience with retail servers, can go fuck themselves, objectively and for many reasons" Comparing logs to Retail doesnt include having Retail experience. Doesnt make sense what you are writing there "Because you are not taking into account the many changes in game mechanics between 7.0.3 and 7.3.5" You´re not taking into account that even when there are Changes for the Mechanics, they are not made for 10% raw dmg increase aswell as a 50% hp increase. Every fking Mechanic is not balanced to have this kind of Buff. "Because you forget that you're playing on a private server, which means that having bugs is quite common." No1 is complaining abt the Bugs from 1-2 to Mechanics on each boss since thats not the Thing you are wiping to. So you better dont forget what a "common bug" is and a "Custom made Aura" "Moreover, before you whine about how the bosses are "mathematically" can not be killed... you should have "worked", and make an extensive bug-report on the shortcomings of the game mechanics. and after fixing bugs. come and discuss how true "custom solutions" here" Doesnt make sense aswell since. Ofc we will report the Mechanics which are bugged if see any appearing. But every fking Mechanic in this Raid is getting affected by a "common Bug" (your Words) which are not balanced towards the Gear you are able to obtain. So none of your Statements you posted earlier where anywhere near to be related to this Topic. Typical Human Warrior clicking Spells If you want to make a Statement do the proper Math since they are "completly killable" (your words) and prove that we are wrong instead of writing 100% nonsense. Iam selling guides to you if you interested in how Mythic Raiding in terms of Comps/CD usage and Math aswell. NP |
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Every fking Mechanic is not balanced to have this kind of Buff. - and here you are wrong. - "Custom made Aura" made for neutralize upped spells and other changes from next pathches.(like 50% buff for Vantus Runes, around 20-30% buff secondary stats on gear, 20-70% buff on trinkets|talents|and spells). and do not forget that bosses were also weakened from patch to patch.. and don't forget that players here act as free content testers and about your whining about "mathematical can not be killed", and since you like to mention retail servers.. Remind you how many topics were raised about unkillable Kil'jaeden & Fallen Avatar in Tomb of Sargeras? And you can still remember Archimonde in Hellfire Citadel, or Blackhand in Blackrock Foundry, or Yogg-Saron in Ulduar.. and many other bosses that Blizzard specifically made unkillable, because this allowed them to maintain interest in the game, as well as work on other content. and despite the whining casual players, and despite the fact that the top players gave arguments and proofs that bosses are mathematically unkillable. nerfs weren't going as fast as the players would like. and even after weakened, it took over 100 attempts to kill. and while you are stuck on empowered content, developers have time to start repairing the next 2 raids(if you look at the plans that they published in the Open-Beta phase, then before opening Trial of Valor a little over 2 months). and the developers still have a ton of bugs in Emerald Nigthmare, a huge bunch of bugs in 5ppl dungeons, and partially unscripted world bosses. and it takes time to fix all of this. and they will probably change the buff a few more times. because that moment is what keeps you on the current content (which they want to make as difficult as possible, but doable). + realm feature, all 4 raids of the legion's old content( Emerald Nigthmare, Trial of Valor, The Nighthold, Tomb of Sargeras) will be reinforced with custom auras. so you will come back here a few more times to ask for something to nerf |
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Я не знаю , чего ты пытаешься добиться , продолжая нести этот бред маленького ребенка , тебе уже давно всё расписали и слили по факту + ты был пойман на вранье , конечно же пруфов у тебя нет и не будет, ведь ты можешь фармить только под пиво свой нормал и героик. Оправдывать администрацию и пытаться доказать какие они гении очень глупо, ведь несмотря на то , что х5 запустился очень хорошо и каких то особых проблем не было, нельзя отрицать тот факт, что мифик с этим бафом максимально сломан, я не буду говорить уже об переапнутых ключах, это проходимо , да и что-то придумать трудно, ведь ядро 7.3.5. Все что надо сделать это снять бафф , на сервере сейчас 2 гильдии которые убили хотя бы 1го босса, вчера почти весь день была вообще одна, лол. Усложнение этого рейда просто глупое , ну не должен он быть таким никак , это чуть ли не самый легкий рейд в истории игры , и бафая его на 50% хп и 10% дмга (когда многие механики у боссов просто напрочь сломаны) они сделали всё намного хуже . Оправдывать и приводить в пример оффу тоже не имеет смысла , чел очнись , контенту 6-7 лет а уж тем более здесь стоит их ядро с х100, с которым у нас одни и те же баги и работоспособность , просто там ик миф зергают , а здесь такое не выйдет . Если бы всё работало как надо , то возможно и можно было бы затраить и убить хотя бы того же урсока и элерет , но я не знаю , что там творится дальше на илгиноте, драконах, кенарии, ксавии. |
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Again, you being completely delusional @ToHellAndBack, how about you mature up and talk your non-sense in some other topics that are more suitable for you instead of a Mythic-Raiding related topic. Since you didn't provide any proofs you killed or tried Mythic Ursoc on the x5 realm, i sincerly ask you- to commit unalive, so you dont waste anymore oxygen several trees have to produce in order to keep your incest moron alive. |
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And to @Xend , you should rethink the buff again and again and again, if you still think its enjoyable and "To raise interest" in the race with that, you are completely wrong. How are guilds able to kill a boss that was made as a DPS-Check with 50% less hp on retail when already Guilds on Retail struggled there, and we should do with the same gear 50% more dmg because of the increased life pool? That's either just completely stupid and not well overthought, or you guys are just trolling around to waste peoples time with that. |
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No guild will pass ever Ursoc with that buff, so they aren't even able to reach Cenarius-or Xavius, which makes the whole "Realm first Race" complete unnecessary. |
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deadsss для начала можешь сходить нахер. идея с бафом не моя. далее то что мифик сломан, можешь сказать спасибо Xend`у который хер ложил на адекватные тесты ЛЮБЫХ механик. начиная от кросс-фрака и наград в ППГ, заканчивая системой мифик+ и ИК. и заметь, я не оправдываю администрацию. я оправдываю только одного человека, который де-факто сейчас единолично сидит и фиксит подземелья(Glazzer). и из-за того, что куратор реалма слабо интересовался тем что происходит на реалме во время ОБТ, а так же то что куратор БТ ложил хер на свои обязанности. то мы имеем ровно то что имеем. 3 месяца ОБТ + несколько месяцев ЗБТ до этого. а контент на старте вышел максимально сырой. и кстати, на х100 этот бафф тоже попал. вчера был 50%, а сегодня уже 40%, так что администрация видимо планирует резать баф по времени. а в целом, я просто понимаю зачем это было сделано. тк один разработчик физически не вывезет массовую починку ИК и ИД, и миф+ в весьма сжатые сроки. с учетом того количества багов которое свалилось на него после открытия ИК, и которые нихуя не зарепортили во время ЗБТ И ОБТ. |
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Post proof of you doing Mythic on 5x and link ur character name. Don't talk or even comment here unless you do that. We don't need your excuses or idiotic comments that's just offensive from the get go. This is directed towards the devs not you. |
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thats why i actually set it on private first so degen kids like him wouldn't post nonsense here |
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Just ignore ToHellAndBack he never did anything ingame and is talking out of is ass a wonder he is still allowed to comment here. We managed to get Ursoc down to 33% and yeah you require 6.66m groups dps here, I will salute to the raid group that pulls that of, maybe with bis leggos, trinkets and basicly a setup with top monks, warlocks, firemages. (sry if I forget class) "The images that ursoc spawn also have a bug where the red ground they spawn don't get locked in place but follows the Image until killed." Only happend for us if we didnt kill the Image in time. |
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it happens to us only once or twice right after the image starting to attack the tank. |
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@Xend any ETA about the Buff to make the Raid....more enjoyable, so we dont have to equip ALL members with BiS legendaries and BiS 880 gear in each slot? |
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Maybe they could also nerf the buff from 50% HP down by like 5% week by week |
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50% is in my opinion way too much...20% or a maximum of 30% would be fair. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2022-01-02 12:10 | Smogy | New Issue | |
| 2022-01-02 12:10 | Smogy | Status | new => assigned |
| 2022-01-02 12:10 | Smogy | Assigned To | => Mirage24 |
| 2022-01-02 12:10 | Smogy | File Added: unknown (80).png | |
| 2022-01-02 12:10 | Smogy | File Added: unknown (79).png | |
| 2022-01-02 12:10 | Smogy | File Added: unknown (78).png | |
| 2022-01-02 12:40 | Mirage24 | Assigned To | Mirage24 => Xend |
| 2022-01-02 14:11 | Mirage24 | Relationship added | related to 0017441 |
| 2022-01-02 14:11 | Mirage24 | View Status | private => public |
| 2022-01-02 14:11 | Mirage24 | Description Updated | |
| 2022-01-02 14:11 | Mirage24 | Additional Information Updated | |
| 2022-01-02 16:06 | Xend | Note Added: 0051508 | |
| 2022-01-02 17:31 | Aldrahin | Note Added: 0051509 | |
| 2022-01-02 17:43 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051511 | |
| 2022-01-02 18:11 | ToHellAndBack | Note Added: 0051513 | |
| 2022-01-02 18:14 | ToHellAndBack | Note Added: 0051514 | |
| 2022-01-02 18:26 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051519 | |
| 2022-01-02 18:30 | Syphex97 | Note Added: 0051521 | |
| 2022-01-02 18:34 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051522 | |
| 2022-01-02 18:47 | ToHellAndBack | Note Added: 0051524 | |
| 2022-01-02 19:34 | Syphex97 | Note Added: 0051529 | |
| 2022-01-02 19:49 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051530 | |
| 2022-01-02 20:06 | Aldrahin | Note Added: 0051531 | |
| 2022-01-03 05:22 | ToHellAndBack | Note Added: 0051537 | |
| 2022-01-03 11:11 | deadsss | Note Added: 0051562 | |
| 2022-01-03 11:22 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051567 | |
| 2022-01-03 11:26 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051570 | |
| 2022-01-03 11:28 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051571 | |
| 2022-01-03 11:51 | ToHellAndBack | Note Added: 0051576 | |
| 2022-01-03 16:12 | Syphex97 | Note Added: 0051585 | |
| 2022-01-03 17:03 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051588 | |
| 2022-01-03 21:30 | Bravep | Note Added: 0051596 | |
| 2022-01-03 21:53 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051598 | |
| 2022-01-05 01:16 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051645 | |
| 2022-01-05 02:18 | aruforr | Note Added: 0051647 | |
| 2022-01-05 09:00 | Smogy | Note Added: 0051652 | |
| 2023-11-14 07:38 | Alica228 | Assigned To | Xend => Alica228 |
| 2023-11-14 08:07 | Alica228 | Status | assigned => closed |
| 2023-11-14 08:07 | Alica228 | Resolution | open => fixed |
| 2023-11-14 08:07 | Alica228 | Resolution | fixed => no change required |
| 2025-01-24 07:26 | Alica228 | Category | Instances / Инсты => Latest instances / Актуальные инсты |
