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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0016119 | Legion Core | Quests - Pandaria / Квесты - Пандария | public | 2021-09-05 14:27 | 2021-09-18 10:14 |
| Reporter | Stopham333 | Assigned To | Shaldoray | ||
| Priority | immediate | Severity | major | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Summary | 0016119: Окровавленная монета | ||||
| Description | Окровавленные монеты под эффектом курительницы вечной огонии должны дропаться с элитных мобов на вневременном острове, но этого не происходит. | ||||
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Здравствуйте, можете предоставить доказательства, что данные монеты должны выпадать с элитных мобов? Ведь даже в самом предмете https://www.wowhead.com/item=102467 сказано, что падать они будут с игроков. |
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Извиняюсь, да действительно. Наверное где-то прочитал на стороннем источнике. А можно ли добавить дроп с элитных мобов? так как на временном острове практически нет других игроков. |
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попробовал кстати пофармить монеты за итем который покупается за 100 вневременных монет. за 15 килов игроков не упало не одной монеты. |
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Stopham333 и че? 1) шанс дропа начиная с дренора не 100%. гарантированно монеты дают лишь при добивании цели. 2) за игроков под дебафом, от курительницы или под дебафом слабости после воскрешения, а так же беззащитной цели. монеты не начисляются. |
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об этом написано как и на самом дебафе https://www.wowhead.com/spell=149624/sacrificed-to-ordos Sacrificed to Ordos Recently sacrificed. Does not grant Bloody Coins. 10 minutes remaining + механика работы предмета описана в комменте. By Leronroll on 2013/09/16 (Patch 5.3.0) OOOKAY! The good, the bad, the ugly about bloody coins and the censer First off, on actually getting bloody coins: Incredibly frustrating and stressful. Coins seem to only be granted on killing blow - however, the game is rather stingy about that. I have been in groups of 5 people in gank-squads, we've attacked people while all having the buff, killed the target without any enemy mobs, fall damage, or other players present, and simply not have the victim obtain the debuff that they were sacrificed to ordos - and no one gets a coin. So, in short, it seems to require killing blows - but doesn't always grant blood coins on killing blows. If it gives an edge to melee killing blows and not ranged, I am uncertain. Anything can interfere with a killing blow - cauterize damage, falling damage, a random mob, etc. To get a coin, you must have a killing blow. Even if you do get a killing blow, sometimes you will not get a coin. I seem to get a coin 100% of the time if there is absolutely no intervention from anyone else - such as if I attack an afk player. But if one other person touched them once when they had more than half their health, I may or may not get a blood coin, even if I landed the killing blow. I have yet to detect some sort of pattern from this. I have observed this on both dishing and and victim's end - I was KB'd by a buffed player and did NOT obtain the ordos debuff. From both the position of the victim and the attacker, this has happened on several occasions. This is, needless to say, already incredibly frustrating - even for a damage-dealing class or high-end pvper. Basically, whoever has the best execution moves or sneaks in the last hit when playing in a group will rake in the most kills - that is assuming there is not a bug, or some other required mechanic that I have not yet discovered, that is coming into play - and that's not even considering if you're a healer, you'll have a much more hellish time than I have as a DK. Frankly I find this very unfair and I want them to change it to credit based on honor kills, not killing blows. I would be happy with the prices on items being raised accordingly if it meant players that are not execution specialists / healers could be treated fairly - and my mains are dk and warlock, neither of which heal, so no shouting "get skil ppv nub" at me. It seems to me, that calculated "trades" of bloody coins may be more effective than farming, even for skilled pvpers that are ganking and preying upon easy targets, simply because of the system's buggy state / arbitrary judgement of what deserves a coin and what doesn't. I am left without position to condemn such trades as bad or exploitative given the obvious unfairness given to healers and the lack of fairness I feel I have received given the amount of effort I have put into pvping, compared to the coins I have been given as a result. Second category: the censer of misunderstanding You do NOT take a permanent 90% health reduction. It only -does damage- equivalent to 90% of your total health, meaning that to obtain the ordos blessing, you must use the item, then be out of combat long enough to heal. You DO NOT obtain a health reduction, it simply does temporary damage that you can heal right after. This is to prevent you from happening across players while you have the benefit of not being hostile to your own faction and switching the buff on mid-fight, and killing them. Find a private spot, do the long cast time, eat food or heal yourself. UPDATE - On the mechanics of the censer buff - You may have considered the benefit of finding one of the god-blessing shrines for use in pvp, considering they offer massive bonuses such as a flat 15% damage increase and similar benefits. Using the censer seems to remove several island-based buffs, including the god-blessing buffs. While I could reapply buffs from the books, each time I used a shrine while under the censer buff, the shrine gave me a "corrupted by ordos" error message - it seems you cannot utilize the shrine buffs when under the effects of the censer. That or I have simply been unusually unfortunate. UPDATE - On the mechanics of the censer buff, part 2 - I can confirm that you can also not use the unique spells related to the "timeless legends" achievement with the censer buff - I tested collecting one with the buff on, and having one then triggering the censer buff. Switching the censer buff on cancelled the buff that granted the spell, and while I received the buff when I looted one of the items, and got achievement credit, the buff was cancelled almost instantly. As such I can now confirm the censer buff cannot be used in conjunction with the unique spell buffs. Other notes: You will want to farm the altars of ordos for black ash, as that will be very helpful when you're not ganking someone that is low health fighting a mob. Among rares to prioritize, if you wish to farm bloody coins, faintly glowing herbs from the leafy guy is probably your best target, as these two items will be very useful in pvp. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2021-09-05 14:27 | Stopham333 | New Issue | |
| 2021-09-05 14:27 | Stopham333 | Status | new => assigned |
| 2021-09-05 14:27 | Stopham333 | Assigned To | => Shaldoray |
| 2021-09-08 10:22 | Shaldoray | Note Added: 0048237 | |
| 2021-09-09 17:42 | Stopham333 | Note Added: 0048257 | |
| 2021-09-09 18:41 | Stopham333 | Note Added: 0048259 | |
| 2021-09-09 19:02 | ToHellAndBack | Note Added: 0048263 | |
| 2021-09-09 19:04 | ToHellAndBack | Note Added: 0048264 | |
| 2021-09-18 10:14 | Shaldoray | Status | assigned => closed |
| 2021-09-18 10:14 | Shaldoray | Resolution | open => fixed |